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A Trio by lastlabyrinth A Trio by lastlabyrinth
Left to right: Zelea, Sanase and Hanok (whose appearance in the first draft has changed to the point of being unrecognizable since this painting was completed). I wasn't sure about submitting this-- it's not one of my more exciting pieces-- but I feel it's a good picture of Sanase when he was younger. This was mainly done for fun, from a sketch I happened to like.

By the way, Zelea (in the foreground) is breaking Yulin law by wearing clothes dyed the Empress' lapis lazuli color. She thinks she can get away with it because there's no Empress on the throne at the moment, but... :noes:

While I'm talking about clothing Hanok's jacket is a very faded low-ranking peace officer's jacket, which you may recognize from this previous image.

And now I'm gonna leave before I yak more about fictional garments and their fictional significance :V
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evilhamster13 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You should yak as much as you want about that! Yaaay, worldbuilding! 
I like Sanase's hair-flop. :3
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lastlabyrinth Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013   Digital Artist
Yeah, but then if I change things later the old rambling is confusing for people who stumble upon it. Like, I sometimes think about deleting this pic entirely, because that's not what Hanok looks like anymore, and the book is so different already even though I'm only halfway done.
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lazylocomotive Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i'm intrigued... are they from a book series?
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lastlabyrinth Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2011   Digital Artist
Nope, they're my own characters. :) Though I'd like to write a book about them someday!

I've got about half of a draft done for it but it needs a lot of work before I can continue.
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chesireusagi Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
i wish i knew how to color the way you do. xC ! Its so pretty. Do you just pick colors randomly or do you have some kind of technique to getting the right shades and hues?
I really must know ; u; <3

Also, you did this in painter correct? which brush and settings do you use?
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lastlabyrinth Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011   Digital Artist
In a piece like this, the color choice is pretty deliberate. For clothes, I go after colors that are visually pleasing and could still be plausibly worn by the character in question; that left me with this sketch, which I then blew up and started painting over. The colors weren't harmonious enough so I changed some of them (like those of Sanase's cloak, though there are still hints of brown there). Generally speaking, everything ended up more purple.

Here the lighting is at least somewhat naturalistic, so I used what little I know about how lighting interacts with color to do shadows and stuff. There are some pieces in which I pick accent colors arbitrarily because they look pretty, but this isn't one of them.

In terms of brushes I use the oils (not artist's oils) family. Default flat oils 10-40 here, and in most other pieces, though recently I've been messing around a bit more. It's probably hard to tell given the size I work at, though.
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chesireusagi Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Oh, thank you so much ^ ^ <3 THis makes me really happy. XD Most of the time when I ask artists for tips on their own techniques, they are all "ffff secret ):< dont steal"

When you paint over a sketch, what is your workflow? Do you do lines first or just paint the shapes? I've always wondered that, I always seem to need to color UNDER lines, I cant seem to just paint over top like so many artists seem to be able to. Can you maybe offer me some advice?
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lastlabyrinth Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011   Digital Artist
Well, that's silly. There's more to art than technique. Just because other people know the method you use for making something doesn't mean they can come up with the stuff you come up with! The ideas should be just as important as the tools.

It's actually kind of hard for me to describe how I tackle this stuff since I don't even think much about it while I'm doing it. But in a piece like this, I definitely don't have "line art", so to speak, after laying down basic colors over a pencil sketch with a gel layer. After that, it's all painting onto one layer, and the lines and the shapes are right next to, and interacting with, each other.

The main thing I had to realize to move from line art to painting like this was simply that if I messed something up by coloring over the lines, I was smart enough and skilled enough to fix it. I also keep a lot of files while I'm working, saving as I make major changes so I have an earlier version to fall back on if I decide something I've done looks horrible. It's just something you have to dive into, even if it's initially uncomfortable.
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chesireusagi Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, I can understand why it'd be hard to explain haha. Have you ever considered recording yourself (your screen i mean, with fraps) as you create a piece of art? that might give people a better insight to how you put your work together. I myself am super curious to see, as I am the kind of person who wants to learn every idea and technique possible, I'm like a sponge for knowledge when it comes to art xD I want to be able to draw in all styles..

I always attempt that "line-less" style, and it always comes out looking messy and un skilled. x/ I'd feel better if I actually saw how it was done. Not that i'm asking you to waste your time on me. ^^;; sorry if it seems that way.

do you do commissions or anything? I would absolutely adore having a piece by you of my OC. ; u;
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lastlabyrinth Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2011   Digital Artist
I've got a livestream channel that I've used to show people how I do cartoony stuff, but it would be awful trying to record a painting like this from start to finish. Most of my personal work takes me 10 hours or more, and since my computer has minimal RAM, running anything else on top of Painter just makes things slower and buggier than they need to be.

I wish I had a video handy to show you. Maybe someday I will stream a quick low effort thing but paint with the same techniques I'd use on a larger piece. In the meantime all I know to say is that it will look messy and unskilled at first, because you're still learning how to do it! I'm still learning how to do it myself...

I do commissions but they are not cheap, and I don't do paintings like this unless it's a very good offer and with an idea or character I like. Feel free to note me about it if you're still interested.
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